i'm joined now by gloria borger and ryan lizza. thanks, guys. who's got the edge right now and we're getting closer and closer. >> it's hard to say. our head is exploding with all of these polls. but if you look at our -- let's take the state of ohio, which is of course so key to both campaigns. it's hard to see how romney would win the presidency without winning ohio, although they now say they could. although if you look at the internals you see what you've been seeing all along. president obama is up with women about 12 points, mitt romney up with men by 8 points. romney has made some in roads in suburban areas, but in our poll, the president is up with independent voters by about 5 points. what romney needs to keep doing, to get the momentum or to continue a momentum that he had after the first debate is to get those voters out in the suburban areas, married women in particular, that could make the difference for him in the state of ohio, which is so key. but as for overall momentum, we're getting so many polls in every day, you talk to both